Carbon Dioxide is not Pollution


We should minimise human pollution of land, atmosphere and oceans.

But that has nothing to do with carbon dioxide from modern coal-burning power stations. No rational person could define carbon dioxide as “pollution”. It is a harmless, non-toxic, colourless natural gas that is the essential food for all plants which then produce food and oxygen for all animals.

Almost everything in coal was derived from plant material – burning it is no more dangerous than burning wood. Both will suffocate you in confined places, but when dispersed in the vast atmosphere their emissions are beneficial plant fertilisers.

Modern coal-fired power generators have extensive filtration equipment which ensures that the exhaust gases are harmless natural gases already present in the atmosphere – nitrogen, water vapour and carbon dioxide – all essential to sustaining life on Earth.

The smogs of Asia are not caused by burning washed coal in modern power stations. They are caused by burning everything else, usually in dirty open fires. They burn cow dung, wood, cardboard, plastic, paper, recycled oil, tyres, dirty coal, kerosene – anything available that will cook food, provide warmth/light or deter mosquitoes. Forest fires in Indonesia, cremations in India and dust from the massive Gobi desert all add to Asian air pollution. As do old worn-out boilers, furnaces, engines and power stations which can spew unfiltered exhaust gases, ash, soot and unburnt fuel into the air.

These all add to air pollution – carbon dioxide does not.

Fifty years ago, bans on open fires plus clean coal-fired electricity and piped coal gas solved the suffocating smogs of London and Pittsburgh.

The same will work wonders on Asian smogs today.

Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia

Burying Life


Of all the anti-carbon policies supposedly improving our climate, carbon capture and burial is probably the worst.

No life can exist on earth without carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Unfortunately, nature has been capturing and burying this valuable plant food for millions of years.

Carbon dioxide is very soluble in water, especially cold water. So it is continually being captured from the atmosphere by rain, rivers and the oceans as well as in growing vegetation. Much of this captured carbon gets buried at sea as extensive deposits of hydrocarbons such as coal, shales, oil, and natural gas, as thick beds of carbonates such as chalk, limestone and dolomite, and in sea shells, bones and coral reefs.

This natural carbon capture and burial caused atmospheric carbon dioxide to reach a dangerous low of about 275 ppm by the end of the Little Ice Age about 200 years ago. At this level, plants suffer carbon starvation and growth slows. Like all cold eras, these times were grim.

Luckily the climate cycles changed, and earth started warming – some ice melted, oceans warmed and carbon dioxide was expelled from the warming oceans to provide more food for plants. Green vegetation started to invade the deserts and crop yields improved.

Man’s industrial activities aided this natural green revolution over the last century by returning some naturally-buried carbon from coal and limestone to the biosphere. The pace of earth-greening has increased – even the giant redwoods are growing faster in this more-fertile atmosphere.

This serendipitous greening of our world is now threatened by misguided efforts to rob the atmosphere of man-made carbon dioxide using a bizarre process called carbon capture and burial – truly a suicidal mission for life on earth.

All life thrives when there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Do the carbon haters also hate life?

Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia


Green Energy is Part of the Past, not Fuel for the Future


The growing failure of green energy in Europe should warn Australia to abandon bi-partisan policies dictating targets, mandates and subsidies for “green” energy.

I grew up at the end of the last green energy era – solar energy powered our growing crops and dried the washing, but it was weak in winter and ceased under clouds and at night; wind energy pumped water, but only when the wind blew; draft horses powered farm machinery, but they had to be fed whether they were working or not; wood gave us home heating and cooking, but it consumed energy to collect and chop it up; kids walked to school or rode bikes or ponies and ladies took the horse and sulky.

Our only help from carbon energy was kerosene for the kitchen lamp and coke used to smelt and forge the metals for farm tools and machinery.

We also practiced “sustainability” – we purchased little, and most of the farm produce was consumed on the farm by family, farm labourers and draft horses.

We were rescued from this life of sustained labour by carbon energy – a kerosene-powered tractor, a petrol-powered truck, and coal-powered electricity for lighting, heating, cooking, refrigeration, milking machines and pumps. The horses and farm labour were no longer needed and, for once, the farm produced a decent surplus of food for the growing cities.

Wind, solar, wood and muscle power are tools of the past and they work no better now than they did then. Forcing people to use these ancient technologies will just return us to laborious poverty on the farms and hunger in the cities.

Green energy should not be forced on consumers – those who want it should pay for it.

Green energy will eventually be abandoned, but the cost rises for each day’s delay.

Election day:

Something to remember:

It was Labor PM Kevin Rudd, supported by the Greens, who gleefully committed all Australians to the costly, unnecessary and now totally discredited Kyoto Agreement (Dec 2007). And it was Senator Penny Wong, a minister in both Rudd governments, who pushed her costly complex and now discredited Emissions Trading Scheme through the same parliament in 2009.

It was Labor PM Julia Gillard leading a Labor/Green coalition in July 2011 who introduced the now discredited carbon tax.

Therefore the first rule for anyone supporting a return to Carbon Sense is this:

Put every Labor/Green Candidate last.

Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia

Parasitic Power Producers


The green energy twins, wind and solar, are parasitic power producers. They cannot produce continuous predictable electricity without sucking backup from their hosts – real power plants using coal, gas, nuclear, hydro or geothermal energy.

They start their freeloading life by attaching themselves to an electricity network built and paid for by their hosts. They seldom contribute to the capital or maintenance cost of the transmission network, and they force consumers to subsidise the feed-in price received for their unreliable output.

From day one, the green energy parasites force their hosts to support them with electricity during the frequent periods when they produce no power. At times, in cold still weather, wind farms drain power from the network to keep the turbines from freezing.

All green energy plants in a region tend to produce either peak power or zero power at the same times. This surging creates serious network instability and forces fluctuating output in backup facilities.

Because of this continuous need for backup, not one unit of real power can be closed. This causes periodic overcapacity in the network. All plants generate lower revenue and profits and both producers and consumers bear the cost of supporting the parasites.

Problems already loom in Europe where coal, gas and nuclear plants face closure because their revenue stream is weakened by overcapacity and interrupted by solar/wind surges.

Green energy has a low capacity factor, intermittent operation, more access and transmission costs and creates operational inefficiencies in back-up plants. It is a destructive and stunningly expensive way to achieve a miniscule overall reduction in carbon dioxide emissions, even if that were a sensible aim. It is a system designed by delirious politicians not prudent power engineers, and its main achievement is to harvest subsidies not energy.

If all green energy welfare was removed, the parasite power producers would die. And unless it is removed, the hosts and the customers will be continuously weakened.

Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia


Abolish Renewable Energy Targets


Australia’s Renewable Energy Target Scheme is an incredibly bad idea. Coercing and bribing people to waste community savings on unpredictable and unreliable solar and wind electricity should end immediately.

There is nothing smart about trying to run a 21st century industrial society using “green energy” to generate electricity. It is costly, diffuse, intermittent and needs 100% backup capacity.

Solar power excels in growing trees, grass and crops and can be useful for heating water or providing electricity in remote locations providing there is also a back-up diesel generator or a bank of batteries in the shed.

Wind power can also be useful in applications where its capricious performance does not matter, such as pumping water to a tank or storage dam.

The green energy financial disaster developing in Europe shows that Australia should stop promoting green energy to limit further damage to consumers and businesses with soaring electricity costs and declining reliability of supply.

The dismal European green record includes bankrupt companies, spiralling electricity prices, industry closures and relocations, financial crises, unstable power supply, environmental uglification, bird slaughter, property devaluation and . . . increasing coal usage.

We must abolish all renewable energy targets, subsidies, mandates and price support.

People who feel green energy suits their needs or beliefs should remain free to invest in it. But our whole society should not be forced to gamble with something as important as our future energy supply.Viv Forbes,

Rosewood    Qld   Australia

Kevin’s Carbon Con

Subject: Think Kevin Rudd is doing the right thing in changing the carbon tax? Think again!

This is the most important newspaper article you may read in the lead up to the election – Kevin Rudd’s Carbon Tax / ETS is actually far worse than Gillard’s proposal: by Terry McCrann.

In summary:

·       Kevin Rudd is NOT ditching the carbon tax. He isn't even cutting it. Your power prices won't fall by a single cent on his announcement.

·       Labor is floating the carbon price with the European market to be set by Europe and/or financial speculators who won’t care at all about Australia, Australian Businesses, or consumer electricity prices.

·       The government won't have the power to guarantee what the carbon tax price would be. In July next year Rudd’s promise to end the fixed price kicks in and then it is free to rise. It is just ludicrous to assume that the European price will still be $6 then. It could be. Equally it could be $12, $20 or more – the Treasury’s own modeling forecast says it will rise to at least $38, and climbing continually higher.

·       The European decision makers want the price to be higher. The whole 'point' of this carbon tax/ETS (emissions trading scheme) is to hurt everyone with higher electricity prices so business and consumers will use less electricity; and that power companies will switch to non-coal – much more costly forms of so-called 'alternative' energy. Every single thing we buy or produce in this country could be effected.

·       On the flip side, if it did stay at $6 (as Rudd is spinning it), at least for a while, it would render Rudd’s climate change policy even more totally pointless, because it would not reduce CO2 emissions. This is the fundamental internal dishonesty of what Rudd is trying to con voters into believing. That they can have cheaper power and still save the planet. It just isn’t possible.

·       It gets worse, Australia loses control:

With a (real) carbon tax – as the existing Gillard one was, in its pre-ETS form – we are paying the money for these Carbon Permits to ourselves (As in, to the Government who in turn can spend the money in Australia as required). But with Rudd’s ETS open to global markets, we will be paying some – most? all? the money to off shore foreigners, to buy their 'permits' to do business in Australia. Whether to legitimate ones in Europe (or to the ubiquitous Nigerians). This money, which even Treasury estimates will – and indeed, should – run into billions of dollars a year, will be money paid to buy . . . absolutely nothing. It buys nothing but a bit of paper, that says in effect: you are given permission to keep your power station in Australia open.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott put it precisely right yesterday: it's a payment for the "non-delivery of an invisible substance to no one." But payment of very real dollars out of the pockets of all Australians. What’s more, its just another imposition on the cost of living and doing business in this country where jobs are disappearing. All the while, China's emissions continue to increase its emissions every year by more than our entire emissions.

Please remember why Kevin Rudd was ditched in the first place, he was more unpopular and making worse decisions than Gillard.

Kevin Rudd Wins the Golden Fleece Award

The Carbon Sense Coalition has awarded its Inaugural Golden Fleece Award to Kevin Rudd and coal industry leaders for “flagrant fleecing of community savings" writes Viv Forbes

Its appropriate that the Golden Fleece award would recognise futile ‘research’ on Carbon Capture & Sequestration. A costly and complex process designed to capture and bury carbon dioxide gas produced by burning carbon fuels such as 'coal, oil and gas'.

It is obviously possible, in an engineering sense, to collect, separate, compress, pump and pipe gases, so new “research” is largely a waste of money. Engineers know how to do these things, and their likely costs. But only foolish green zealots would think of spending billions to bury a harmless, invisible, life-supporting gas in hopes of cooling the climate some time in the century ahead.

About 2.5 tonnes of carbon dioxide are produced for every tonne of coal burnt in a power station. To capture, compress and bury it could take at least 30% of the electricity produced, greatly increasing the cost of the limited amount of electricity left for sale – more coal used, increased electricity costs, for ZERO measurable benefits.

We have come to expect stupidity from politicians, but coal industry leaders who agreed to waste money on this should be sued by shareholders for negligence. Maybe they were just drooling at all the extra coal they would sell in order to produce the same electricity?

Kevin Rudd wins this award for “a Flagrant Fleece of $400 million taken from tax payers to fund the fatuous Global Carbon Capture and Storage Institute.” There is little to show for the millions already spent except a lot of receipts for high class salaries, consultants, travel, entertainment and “operational expenses”.

Pumping gases underground is sensible if it brings real benefits such as using waste gases to drive oil recovery from declining oil fields.

Normally, however, CCS will just produce more expensive electricity.

This result is not needed as politicians have already invented dozens of ways of doing just that.

More, as well as:

  • The Warming of the last Century is too Small to Notice
  • Clean Coal by Wire
  • The New Cold War
  • The Great Barrier Reef
  • A revival of the Medieval Practice of Book Burning
  • The Beginning of the End

Read the full report: [PDF, 133 KB]

This article was reposted via Viv Forbes who writes from the Carbon Sense Coalition which can be reached at